Mar 17, 2007, 04:27 PM // 16:27
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#141
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2005
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by agrios
"Otyugh's Cry" is BY FAR the worst skill on GW. Ever. What low level creeps can do against the mobs on any area? They should remake this skill and turn it into a summon or something (like D&D Summons Nature Ally)
If there were a counter for uses of skills OC's meter would be around 2 or 3.
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+20 AL to all allied pets can be advantageous in some instances, although admittedly not often. The fact that it makes neutral animals aggressive means nothing and is not the point of using the skill. If you want a REALLY bad skill, look at [skill]Point Blank Shot[/skill] or [skill]Power Shot[/skill]
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Mar 17, 2007, 04:36 PM // 16:36
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#142
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jul 2005
Profession: Mo/
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wow, someone still think there are worse Ranger skills than Otyugh. You win.
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Mar 17, 2007, 11:55 PM // 23:55
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#143
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: May 2006
Location: USA
Guild: Team Asshat [Hat]
Profession: Mo/E
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[skill]Balthazar's Pendulum[/skill] - Knockdowns are not a problem that require an elite to solve. Skill ends after it prevents a single knockdown. Relies on an enemy to cause the knockdown.
[skill]Peace And Harmony[/skill] - Energy gain is not even reflected until 15 seconds after this skill has been used. Easilly removed. Conditional.
[skill]Unyielding Aura[/skill] - Elite res skill; no explaination necessary.
[skill]Ray of Judgment[/skill] - Costs 15 more energy than signet of judgement, recharges 10s slower, lacks knockdown, dissables skills.
Last edited by Spazzer; Mar 18, 2007 at 12:31 AM // 00:31..
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Mar 18, 2007, 12:31 AM // 00:31
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#144
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Academy Page
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by firekil
I can't believe nobody mentioned Signet Of Agony. Its like a much worse version of chillblains.
Sacrifice 10% maximum health and suffer from bleeding for 25 seconds. All nearby foes take 10...37 damage.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Signet_of_Agony
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[wiki]Signet of Agony[/wiki] is horrible on its own, but it's meant to be used with [wiki]Plague Touch[/wiki], [wiki]Plague Sending[/wiki] or [wiki]Plague Signet[/wiki]. I wouldn't call it a great skill, but it is nice to provide a cover condition or extra pressure as part of a build that has an extra skill slot and already includes a condition transfer skill.
Last edited by Gordon Ecker; Mar 18, 2007 at 12:35 AM // 00:35..
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Mar 18, 2007, 12:36 AM // 00:36
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#145
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: May 2006
Location: USA
Guild: Team Asshat [Hat]
Profession: Mo/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon Ecker
[wiki]Signet of Agony[/wiki] is horrible on its own, but it's meant to be used with [wiki]Plague Touch[/wiki], [wiki]Plague Sending[/wiki] or [wiki]Plague Signet[/wiki].
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Don't forget [wiki]Contagion[/wiki]
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Mar 18, 2007, 03:43 AM // 03:43
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#146
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Apr 2006
Guild: The Stolen Eye [SEyE]
Profession: Me/E
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[skill]"Can't Touch This!"[/skill]
As a Paragon user, I hate to name a Paragon skill as the worst. However, this is simply not versatile enough, nor is it useful enough to constitute being worth 10 Energy. Not worth bringing in any situation. The reference may be cute, but it's an honest waste of space as it stands now.
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Mar 18, 2007, 03:51 AM // 03:51
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#147
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Long Island
Guild: So Goth We Crap [Bats]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vyldan
[skill]"Can't Touch This!"[/skill]
As a Paragon user, I hate to name a Paragon skill as the worst. However, this is simply not versatile enough, nor is it useful enough to constitute being worth 10 Energy. Not worth bringing in any situation. The reference may be cute, but it's an honest waste of space as it stands now.
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Hey, may be useful in AB
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Mar 18, 2007, 04:43 AM // 04:43
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#148
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Frost Gate Guardian
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vyldan
[skill]"Can't Touch This!"[/skill]
As a Paragon user, I hate to name a Paragon skill as the worst. However, this is simply not versatile enough, nor is it useful enough to constitute being worth 10 Energy. Not worth bringing in any situation. The reference may be cute, but it's an honest waste of space as it stands now.
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This is currently the best skill in the game for me in my situation.
Best PvE skill = Blood of the Master.
Unyielding is pretty outright awful, I add it to my list.
Bad elites get bonus poo points, for what they have to compete against. The ones that aren't even good enough to take the place of a NORMAL skill hurt the most. Ideal world, every elite should be useful to build a build around, or round out a build with.
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Mar 18, 2007, 09:22 AM // 09:22
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#149
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jul 2006
Profession: R/
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Mar 18, 2007, 09:27 AM // 09:27
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#150
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jul 2006
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vyldan
[skill]"Can't Touch This!"[/skill]
As a Paragon user, I hate to name a Paragon skill as the worst. However, this is simply not versatile enough, nor is it useful enough to constitute being worth 10 Energy. Not worth bringing in any situation. The reference may be cute, but it's an honest waste of space as it stands now.
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That skill is VERY good in the challenge mission, Remains of Sahlahja..
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Mar 18, 2007, 10:17 AM // 10:17
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#151
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Academy Page
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: Heroes Of Primeval Eden
Profession: N/Me
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yea... Otyugh's Cry is totally useless... unless there was a target near all those aggressive lions & lionesses in Jahai Bluffs, otherwise there is no use for a single lvl5 pet to help you... they're just too week.
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Mar 18, 2007, 01:37 PM // 13:37
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#152
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jul 2006
Profession: R/
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How would you guys go about making Otyugh's Cry a better skill then?
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Mar 18, 2007, 01:51 PM // 13:51
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#153
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Bubblegum Patrol
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Singapore Armed Forces
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Removing it completely?
__________________
And the heavens shall tremble.
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Mar 18, 2007, 01:59 PM // 13:59
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#154
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Europe
Guild: The German Order [GER]
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade26
How would you guys go about making Otyugh's Cry a better skill then?
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posted long time ago on other forums: http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...ghlight=Otyugh
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All animals in the area become hostile to your target and gain +20 armor for 30 seconds. Otyugh's Cry cannot turn charmed animals against their masters or their master's allies. If no masterless animal was affected, level 4..20 animal hostile to target is summoned to targets location. (50% failure chance with Beast Mastery 4 or less.)
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(read before you rant how owerpowered that would be.)
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Mar 18, 2007, 02:06 PM // 14:06
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#155
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Banned
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Firestorm. Yes.
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Mar 18, 2007, 05:48 PM // 17:48
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#156
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Academy Page
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: Heroes Of Primeval Eden
Profession: N/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ork Pride
Firestorm. Yes.
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Firestorm isn't a bad skill, just annoying in PvE because of enemy AI.
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Mar 18, 2007, 06:24 PM // 18:24
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#157
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Elite Guru
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Manchester, England
Guild: SMS/Victrix
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Wastrel's Collapse, Otyugh's Cry, Scribes Insight are all pretty high on my list of bad. There's a lot of bad skills, really >_>.
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Mar 18, 2007, 06:26 PM // 18:26
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#158
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Aug 2006
Guild: Das Fragons [FRAG]
Profession: Me/E
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No mention of Ride the Lightning eh?
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Mar 18, 2007, 07:34 PM // 19:34
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#159
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jan 2007
Profession: E/
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As an elementalist user for 2 years, I can really say that :
Armor of frost is totally OWNED by Frigid armor
Elemental flame is useless
Stone sheath... i'd rather say stone shit
Chilling winds is barelly useless too
and Burning speed, which is owned by any djinn with 0 in corresponding attibute
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Mar 18, 2007, 07:54 PM // 19:54
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#160
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: DVD Forums (DVDF)
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One amazing thing with threads like this is all the uses for "little used skills" that surfaces.
Regards,
Cloudbunny
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